Individual residential landuse for each house or street: good or bad?

I have noticed some places where residential landuse has been split to the extent where there is a one landuse=residential for a group of houses or even one landuse=residential for each property, divided along property boundaries. In my opinion, mapping residential landuse in this way is unnecessary and should be merged back together where possible. However, as multiple users have added landuse in this way in the last year, there probably needs to be a discussion and then agreement on whether this style of landuse mapping is desired in OSM or not. Perhaps this kind of granular data does belong in OSM, but with a different tag such as place=plot? Note: the wiki page Tag:place=plot - OpenStreetMap Wiki has some warnings about the usage of cadastral parcels to map individual properties.

Two places where this style of mapping can be seen:

Biggleswade: OpenStreetMap

High Wycombe: OpenStreetMap

Also it’s ugly

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I’m not in the UK. However, I agree with you that this pattern has few advantages and myriad disadvantages. One thing to consider is that this makes it harder to edit in general. Unnecessary complexity discouraging future mappers who would otherwise add valuable contributions is an oft-overlooked problem in the OSM community, in my opinion.

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landuse is for the land use of area, not individual homes or shops. place=plot seems better for these, but I wouldn’t personally spend my time mapping place=plot.

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I map landuse=residential for whole blocks of houses, and try not to go over roads, but I don’t think it’s a good use for individual house blocks. For suburban boundaries it might be better to map fences instead, as that’s what’s actually visible (e.g. like some parts of Edinburgh).

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Not British but definitively overkill too IMO (and that’s someone who does map plots at least in the way of adding visible borders like barriers).

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plots
 maybe add the land registry ref codes and we’re a full extension of governing institutions. No, we’re not, but it’s creeping in in places
 import this, import that, all made readily available for exactly that purpose. (Do though much like the city maps in the UK in places, meticulously outlined houses, ideally with 3D tagging, driveways, fences, gardens, civic numbers perfectly centered, but wont touch that with a long pole.

Unnecessary, difficuly to maintain. I wonder what kind of information people try to convey by such mapping
 Is it fences? We already have barrier=fence for this. Is it cadastral parcels? They do not even always overlap with physical fencing


Another similar example of over-detailed mapping is people mapping landuse=farmland as individual fields based on what they see on aerial imagery. The pattern of these field may change yearly, and what then? Will someone make regular updates to these farmland polygons every single year?
A couple of examples of the latter from Poland:

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I suppose it could be worse, the areas could be attached to the roads. In any case, I’d merge them all together into ‘islands’ of landuse.

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This is unnecessary and can be achieved in a much better way with walls/fences and residential gardens. See how I’ve been mapping houses in Casablanca, Morocco.

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Osmose considers it ‘wrong’ to have buildings on landuse=farmland, which has occasionally driven me to divide up farmland.

There is a project underway in Ireland to record individual field names too - Way: â€ȘDelaney's Field‬ (â€Ș1317393352‬) | OpenStreetMap with will result in smaller and smaller farmland areas.

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I agree that mapping each property as a residential area goes too far. I feel it’s not the intent of the landuse=residential area tag.It would be acceptable for an idividual isolated residential property.

Individual properties can be shown by previously mentioned tags.

Discussion to be had on how we decide to break up residential areas in towns, cities, etc.
I feel that through-roads are not residential areas, and use these to break up residential areas in towns. Residential roads that primarily serve the Residential Area can be included in the Residential Area.

Below is an example of how I map residential areas.

Below is a residential area I feel is too large and needs splitting up.

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it can be relatively easily fixed by merging this areas

JOSM should be able to do it

In terms of farmland mapping in the UK I would strongly disagree with you on mapping individual fields.

Whilst some boundaries have been lost in recent decades they are now protected and have been unchanged for centuries (since the enclosure acts).

Whilst crops change annually in arable field, they remain arable and pasture remains pasture.

Farmers don’'t move fences and hedges, which then involve furniture for rights of way including kissing gates and stiles.

For navigation across farmland the most important thing we can map is the barriers. And in these terms OSM is the leader for this important information. Being able to choose rights of way without stiles, or a small number is vital.

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I have noticed some places where residential landuse has been split to the extent where there is a one landuse=residential for a group of houses or even one landuse=residential for each property, divided along property boundaries. In my opinion, mapping residential landuse in this way is unnecessary and should be merged back together where possible. However, as multiple users have added landuse in this way in the last year, there probably needs to be a discussion and then agreement on whether this style of landuse mapping is desired in OSM or not. Perhaps this kind of granular data does belong in OSM, but with a different tag such as place=plot? Note: the wiki page Tag:place=plot - OpenStreetMap Wiki has some warnings about the usage of cadastral parcels to map individual properties

I assume where this has been done they have take the Land Registry cadastral parcels, not attempted to trace them from imagery.

Whilst it can be argued that it is too much detail, it is not wrong and whilst I wouldn’t map in this detail myself I would not consider removing this level of detail.

Phil

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Of course it can be easily fixed, but since some people choose to map in this way (within the last week) it wouldn’t be appropriate to ‘fix’ all their work without a discussion first

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As shown in this comment where I queried this mapping style, it is traced from cadastral parcels but not exclusively, for example where cadastrals are innacurate and don’t line up with boundary fences/hedges etc.

Where you say that this kind of mapping is ‘not wrong’ are you saying you think it’s ok to have one landuse=residential per house? Or just the principle of having some kind of per-house geometry is ok? Most people so far seem to agree that using landuse=residential in this way is wrong, but have more mixed feelings about place=plot

Don’t get me started on people using leisure=garden in place of landuse=residential :sweat_smile: I happen to think grey blobs are useful and don’t like residential areas being turned green on carto


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Where people are mapping individual houses there is no need for landuse=residential except for those people who want to summate landuse totals

I’ve occasionally defended OsmOse as “a QA tool that says that it needs a critical eye”, but that does sound like a bug


Nope, fully by design And without exception. Read the farmland and farmyard wikis from which hat the rabbit was lifted.

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