How to tag dog house?

stevea · 2023-01-31T03:27:23.787Z

Well, all you say is true, all I say is true. So we are at least part way there. How do we improve this?

Pedja · 2023-01-31T03:28:08.412Z

I guess, better way to tag would be using building=yes + amenity=dog but it seems that is not valid value for amenity tag.

stevea · 2023-01-31T03:28:13.079Z

Yeah, amenity=* is already quite overloaded and I don’t think is appropriate here.

Adamant1 · 2023-01-31T03:28:39.459Z

Someone asked on the talk page for the barn tag once about using it on chicken coops. It doesn’t seem like the conversation went anywhere though and I guess there’s like 1,740 uses of building=chicken_coop in the meantime. So you could maybe look into creating a barn/shed sub-tagging scheme for animal shelters. Or if not, there’s like 4 uses of building=dog_house. Really, I’m kind of surprised there isn’t already a sub tagging scheme for animal shelters or at least types of barns. Maybe there is and I just missed it though.

stevea · 2023-01-31T03:29:30.544Z

I mean, it could be quite appropriate to coin a new tag here, like building=dog_house, and wiki-document it after pinning one into our map data.

Pedja · 2023-01-31T03:29:44.053Z

building=dog_house seems possible way too, but that is also not existing value for the building tag.

stevea · 2023-01-31T03:30:44.567Z

Sometimes, it is correct to simply “make up” (coin, in English) a new value for an existing key. Presto! A new tag! (And everybody likely understands it, thanks to its direct simplicity and widespread use, at least in English).

Pedja · 2023-01-31T03:31:49.759Z

That is why I asked here first, to check, if there is proper way but I just cannot find it.

stevea · 2023-01-31T03:32:16.574Z

We ARE allowed “any tag you like,” and speaking personally, I happen to like building=dog_house!

Adamant1 · 2023-01-31T03:33:44.899Z

Pedja:

building=dog_house seems possible way too

I don’t think anyone would have a problem with you just creating that tag in this case since like Stevea it’s a generally accepted recognized and accepted term for dog shelters.

Pedja · 2023-01-31T03:34:00.468Z

stevea:

building=dog_house

building=dog_house was the first I looked for, but found out it does not exist. It seems obvious.

Pedja · 2023-01-31T03:48:41.559Z

OK, I created building=dog_house. Updated Wiki too.

Mammi71 · 2023-01-31T09:08:12.925Z

My translators suggest another word: dog kennel. But a kennel is a little bit more than just a small wooden hut for dogs.

aTarom · 2023-01-31T09:08:49.279Z

A few months ago I chose “building”=“kennel” because of what was said in the forum to be a “more English” word.
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=660277#p660277
Just as a note, I understand we have these three in use?
“building”=“kennel” (in green)
“building”=“dog_house” (in red)
“building”=“doghouse” (in blue)

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SomeoneElse · 2023-01-31T09:49:45.056Z

One feature, Six mappers and still More ways to map it:

dog kennel

“kennel” is the British English word for a small wooden building outside for dogs, but it’s also (usually as “kennels”) used for what in OSM we’d call “an animal boarding amenity for dogs”.

British English doesn’t use “dog_house” much, except in this sense, but people will know what it means in American, so (a bit like sidewalk) I can see the logic of using it here. Current taginfo usage for all variants is low, see here, here and here.

SK53 · 2023-01-31T10:41:14.908Z

SomeoneElse:

also (usually as “kennels”)

Also for those housing hunting and military/police dogs as here and here.

The distinction between the singular and plural here does suggest dog_house is less likely to cause confusion.

Grass-snake · 2023-01-31T10:51:06.997Z

aTarom:

“building”=“dog_house”

Don’t you think that this is not quite the right option? Maybe it’s better to use the man_made=dog_house tag (or another value), similar to dovecote?

Adamant1 · 2023-01-31T18:42:01.731Z

IMO man_made makes sense for dovecotes because they can be both separate buildings and parts of ones. I don’t think there are buildings with dog kennels built into the architecture though. It’s always a separate, individual building. Except maybe in animal shelters or boarding places, but that’s not really what we are discussing.

pyram · 2023-01-31T19:25:54.522Z

Pedja:

OK, I created building=dog_house. Updated Wiki too.

We should not use “building=*” for things that are too small for people to enter.
I would oppose that this is a good idea to change the Wiki without longer discussion.
See contributions above:
SomeoneElse Link
and Grass-Snake Link

What’s the next? building=birds_house?

dieterdreist · 2023-01-31T20:05:21.000Z

We should not use “building=*” for things that are too small for people to enter.

my concern with the typical dog house is that it isn’t made of sufficiently durable material to call it a “building”. Most dog houses I have seen were big enough for someone to enter them (not standing up of course) because small dogs won’t get a dog house, they will sleep on a carpet or mattress inside