Hello.
Here in Alabama, there is an abundance of “deer processors” places where you can take a deer to have someone else cut meat out of it.
I haven’t seen any tagging discussion about this online, but I don’t think there is appropriate tagging for this kind of facility.
They don’t sell cuts of meat, and they don’t keep meat on hand like a conventional butcher.
Does this warrant its own tagging?
Sounds close to a slaughterhouse.
It doesn’t seem like there is a tag slaughterhouses. There is the generic landuse=industrial + industrial=slaughterhouse Tag:industrial=slaughterhouse - OpenStreetMap Wiki, but that’s for the generic area, not a specific business.
man_made=works + product=meat + animal=deer may be the least wrong option. Tag:man_made=works - OpenStreetMap Wiki
The key difference is that whole herds of live animals are brought to a slaughterhouse, while a hunter brings a single deer carcass at a time (or maybe a few) to a processing facility. Some may be large and might make sense to tag as industrial=* (or man_made=works). Others are small home based businesses that only operate around hunting season. These might more feel more appropriate under the craft=* key.
A deer processor can be accurately described as a “butcher”, but not a “butcher shop” because they don’t sell the meat. They just provide a service to hunters and give the meat back to them. So shop=butcher is wrong for this, but perhaps craft=butcher? It does have a little bit of use so far.
I like your idea, I’ve seen game processors that do feral hog as well, so a generic tag like craft=butcher seems appropriate.
Would craft=meat_processor (processing?) possibly work better, to prevent any confusion with “butchers”?
FWIW the 39 craft=butcher are here. Most are in Germany. A couple of the ones outside of Germany have indicated “not a shop” (also here). Some of the ones inside Germany also look “larger than just a shop”.
Notwithstanding that, a deliberately different tag (e.g. as suggested above) would avoid any confusion.
In my local neck of the woods the hunters process the game close to where they shot it. They do that themselves, or if they are of the kind “wealthy shooters buying a shoot” have rented hands to do that. Anything else will require a butcher and quick moving of the body.
UPDATE to clarify: Hunters just remove the intestines, cutting the meat most always with a butcher.
(OT on slaughterhouses) I suspect that many just aren’t mapped at all, because they often don’t advertise their presence much (thought locals will of course know that they are there). FWIW in the UK there’s a list here (under OGL) and the nearest one to me (actually part of the Food Standards Agency) is in the unmapped pink space here.
I have composed a proposal.
Please review and provide feedback.
Thanks!
*=animal_processing + animal=deer ?
I second the idea to make this work for game other than deer.
If I think about my local customs and legislation, there would be a difference between a facility where
One difference from the current language of the proposal is that these facilities (type 1 and 2) are perhaps a bit more communal, and offered also/primarily as local food processing and storage facility rather than ”game processing as a service”.
(Sorry for potentially inaccurate English terminology.)
what other animal processing businesses are there? I suppose there might be businesses for processing feral hog, but I’ve never seen one
Is it not just a butcher who specialises in producing venison?
I assume the provide a service rather than sell the meat but still a butcher.
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This is a commercial facility, but still works on a similar process of roo’s being shot in the field, with their carcasses then delivered to established cold rooms, from where they’re collected for processing.
I have heard of some places also doing similar with wild goats, & I think even pigs?
I’d expect any kind of animals that are hunted as wild game. Here’s a list of wild game processors in the state of Vermont. Some are listed as processing deer, bear, and/or moose. Others are listed as processing “any wild game” which would include turkey, rabbit, duck, and a number of other species that are hunted in Vermont.
Some thoughts on more generic tag options:
craft=animal_processing - An improvement over deer_processing as it allows for facilities processing any sort of game animals. It may be a bit too general though as animal could easily be taken to mean farm livestock as well. It’s unclear to me if separate tagging for livestock vs game processing facilities would be desirable, but if so then a more specific term would be better.craft=game_processing - More specific term using hunting meaning of the word “game” to indicate a specific subset of animal processing. May not always translate clearly to other languages since the word “game” has a number of different meanings.craft=wild_game_processing - Same as above, but “wild game” should hopeful survive translation better than just “game”.I think it is appropriate to have a more general tag. However, what would make a good subtag for specifying the animals processed?
It seems key:animal is currently in use, but has some unusual guidance, instructing mappers to assign it to pastures, as well as buildings, and even as a way to specify certain facilities, such as animal=cemetary.
Would this be an appropriate subtag for a game processor?
animal= features are at most “in use” only
=horse_walker : Leading at ~3.7k, once bulk added in 2021 nearly tripling it=school : Already down to ~800, superseded by amenity=animal_training=cemetery : 200Why is adding it to =pasture and building= "unusual` ?
Was discussed recently
Can it be phrased so craft= is for processing facility not business?
Very often people map office as craft= despite that office=company would be better.
Would be nice to avoid it at least for new tags, even ones where it likely has no upscale HQ office in capital.
No, I think that was just me doing re-tagging. An awful lot of (mapped) animal=horse_walker objects are in Ireland.
Not all game that is shot is wild. Birds like pheasants are often bred in captivity and released before being shot.