Hello, I saw a centre that controlled and repaired tachographs. They are little reccording machines in buses and HGVs.
I added the place on OSM with a “car_repair” tag but this isn’t accurate as it is not a garage that does mechanical reparation but specificaly this legally required maintenance. They also do breathalysers mounted on the vehicle (EAD, in French), mandatory in at least France for bus but can also be fitted if convicted of a DUI.
Essentially this is similar to “MoT” vehicle inspection (tagged as amenity=vehicle_inspection), in French called contrôle technique. However to be clear, it does not do this “contrôle technique”, just for these two devices.
I tried asking on the French forum for help but didn’t get any answers so hopefully somebody has some idea here.
I would think this would probably be your best option, with one of the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:service:vehicle:\* tags added - from the ones listed there, diagnostics, electrical or inspection may be the best fit?
You can use this combination: shop=truck_repair
+ service:vehicle:tachograph_installation=yes service:vehicle:tachograph_inspection=yes service:vehicle:truck_repair=no service:vehicle:car_repair=no
I didn’t know about truck_repair. I guess that’s better than car_repair, less chance car drivers will go there expecting a garage at least.
Maybe I could use the service tags with vehicle_inspection but that’s still not 100% acccurate. Is it possible to just use the service tags on their own? I also forgot to add that taximeter are checkzd there too. And for the alcohol machine does anybody know the equivalent to the french EAD, Ethylotest Anti-Demarage. I would translate word for word as Anti-Start Breathyliser. Does this exist in the UK or USA?
I think I’ve stumbled on something that is really niche and doesn’t fit into the existing tags…
In a sense they are, in that a legally required component of many vehicles is repaired there. If I take the back seat out of my car somewhere to get it reupholstered, I’d say that the place doing the work is still “repairing part of a car”.
Clearly it’s an edge case, but surely shop_truck_repair would be closer and more useful than the very broad shop=service? (apparently almost no data consumers ofeither)
But the place where it is done is not a shop=car_repair or shop=truck_repair (no idea which kind of vehicle you are driving … ) but to a craft=upholsterer.
In the same way I would not see a car repair shop here. Sure, shop=service is very much generic, but the kind of service is specified in the subtag. If that still does not fit, maybe we need a new specific tag for such service & repair centres.
I don’t know I agree with vehicles are repaired there. I would expect a place tagged as car/truck_repair to deal the mechanical, the engine or anything that makes it drive. If the place just does the windows or the seat I would think car_repair to be misleading but maybe I’m wrong.
I like option 1 except for the shop=service that I don’t know. It does help me with the fact that I don’t want to give the impression they “repair” the vehicle but just these special machines. Of course I doubt it will be reused by apps as it is so niche.
Unless anybody disagrees in the near future I will change my additions to use those tags.
When I had other electrical work done on my car a while back, they had a sign up concerning the alcohol checking devices (can’t remember what they’re called here?) so no, normal auto electricians apparently fix them as well as other car issues.
Another thing that’s become more & more prevalent out here over the last few years, is that any car service place will do any sort of repair work, regardless of their speciality e.g. an automatic transmission place, or a tyre shop, also does normal servicing!
shop=service is quite meaingless and unacceptable. They all belong to the service industry. There are many different services, and those customer-facing. @Niquarl If you don’t like =car_repair for repairing , there’s an alternative, while @Mateusz_Konieczny can be enquired Tag:shop=car_service - OpenStreetMap Wiki
Or a single non-car example amenity=truck_service | Tags | OpenStreetMap Taginfo
Ideally eg =vehicle_service
Wondering whether bus is supposed to be included in =truck and =truck_*
If a general car electrician does this kind of service and repair the shop can be tagged as such. If it is an authorized service point doing only service and repair of such special electronic equipment it is neither an auto electrician nor a car or truck workshop.
Of course it is acceptable, very much the same like office=company where the companies activity can further be specified by company=* and in use some 285000 times. Some mappers like it, others don’t. This is OSM.
An alternative would be a distinctive tag describing that such a workshop is an (authorized) service point for electronic control devices used in cars, trucks and buses.
office=company at least shows it’s companies, not =ngo etc. office=company + company=* duplicates office=* which “is OSM” too, and dominantly. shop=service for providing services would be suggesting a duality with shop=products for selling items. I suppose both should and would simply use shop=yes then.
Another usefully vague option is amenity=workshop
Well, it is acceptable in the sense of ATYL but is as desirable as say shop=stuff
office=company is better as for many purposes profile of internal company office does not really matter whether they deal with insurance, making cars or making cigarettes. Adding company= is OK for specifying their profile but is needed less often.
But for shop= it is far more common that we want to distinguish say place offering notary services from place offering tax advise from place where architect can design your house from brothel from dentist from insurance shop from place offering tutoring services from tax consulting from other services.
In the same way as shop=yes is lesser problem than building=yes as exact flavor of building is less important for many use cases.
I would be fine with this but then how to properly indicate that a place also serves the breathylizers and taximeters?
As this is specialised work I would assume (perhaps incorrectly) that they wouldd’t just do one device.
What about shop=vehicle_service (as was mentioned above) instead of truck_repair? As someone questioned whether buses count as trucks. Also in my example they also do cars whether taxis or for breathylizer imposed because of DUI.
And then specify for each place with service:vehicle:X=yes/only ?
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