I am new to OSM, but I really like the projekt and I will be involved. I already do mapping for Orienteering.
But in my point of view, the default OSM map (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/ ) looks awful. How can that be changed? Google Maps looks much better, but it should be possible to make OSM look even better than Google Maps.
Has this been discussed before? I did’t found anything about it.
Some colors is really awful, in example the green color for forrest is to intense and look bad. Example zoom level 11
Similar objects doesn’t really look that similar on the map. In example the red dotted lines and the blue dotted lines in this example (zoom level 14). Similiar objects should have almost similar color (doesn’t have to be the same), maybe different pattern (like black dotted lines, and dark gray dashed lines instead of the red and blue dotted lines).
Maybe OSM should have a design competiotion among Design Students or something like that, and then pick the best map layout. We should be better than Google
Finally I find it is to many map features, we should maybe have fewer, then is it esier to do mapping.
The map is rendered by Mapnik, so you can make a stylesheet that looks better and propose it OSM is a project that advances because it’s members come up with new stuff, software, events etc.
Regarding the number of map features that we have in OSM, I strongly disagree that we should have fewer. This project might have street in it’s name, but it’s really about mapping everything around you which includes (but not only) streets.
From what I’ve read, the Mapnik layer tries to follow common (British?) cartography practices, where the color scheme is selected to convey information effectively, not to look pretty. Still a design competition sounds fun but is unlikely to produce a scheme worthy of replacing the default layer for that purpose - that doesn’t stop someone else from setting up a map service with those colors.
Yes, that sounds good, I will try to experiment with mapnik.
Yes, I agree to that. I’m just a bit confused sometimes when it’s not really clear what of the symbols to use, should maybe be more clear definitions of the symbols.
Yes I think most of the maps in the world is aiming for that. But OSM do it very bad. I think Google Maps and other countries has the same goal but they have other “common cartography practices”. I think OSM can perform better in this area. For me a map looks good when it’s not using disturbing colors or symbols, and in that way convey the information more efficient.
Ah, that looks much much better than OSM! Good job! I think we can improve it even more with changing some colors.
Speaking of all the mapnik styles &c. Is there a repository/… with mapnik templates or styles? I have managed to install mapnik at home on my Debian machine but apart from the (large) included style there are not so many examples to be found. The included tutorials seem to go from very simple (draw a shapefile) to the full map with rules for all scales with nothing inbetween…
“very bad” is the wrong language. It’s all a matter of taste. Personally I think the cartography on OSM is a million times better than the ooops-I-just-vomited-fifty-bright-colours design of Google Maps, but that’s just my personal opinion. Cartography is art, you’re never going to satisfy everyone.