Hörnle Bad Kohlgrub MTB Karte. Wer hilft mit bei der Verbesserung?

[Steppske]

Hi, yesterday I did a MTB Tour at the mentioned location. I did some research and did not find good information, where cycling is allowed. Graphhopper suggestions were not good, too.

I took a photo of the official map. Who is willing to maintain that in OSM, I don’t have any time currently

[Negreheb]

This reads a bit like a “Do this for me” - usally osm contributors react a bit allergic to something like that

Some things:

• this should probably be in the german section
• That picture can and should not be used as its copyrighted
• if you were there you for sure have made some gpx tracks and notes that could be used to enter the information you want entered in osm (if not, the Android App “OSMTracker for Android” might be worth a visit OSMTracker (Android) - OpenStreetMap Wiki )
• If you did not collect data, you could open a note and hope someone might visit it
• And lastly, i checked around “Mittleres Hörnle”, seems not too bad. Way: 186940484 | OpenStreetMap seems correct (although, it does not say “forbidden”, just “ungeeignet” therefore bicycle=no is not correct here, but i undestand what the intention was) and Way: ‪18E‬ (‪50845254‬) | OpenStreetMap also looks correct. And Way: 50845476 | OpenStreetMap also looks fine.

You might specifiy where problems arose? Because i don’t see a problem after a quick check. How did you create your tour? https://bikerouter.de/ ? Seems fine, but it does not use the “geeignete Forstwege” because there is (as far as i know) nothing to properly do this in OSM.

@Naturpark_Ammergauer_Alpen maybe ? Dont know :)

[Steppske]

Hi Negrehep,

thank you for your qualified reply. Thanks for the heads up regarding “do this for me (us)”.

I used graphhopper (as I wrote) and it wanted to lead me the steepest road. There were restrictions in place, but they taken back due a verdict.

Why can’t this public sign not be used? I don’t get it.

Can this topic be moved to the German section?

Regards

[Vinzenz_Mai]

@Steppske

Can this topic be moved to the German section?

Wie gewünscht verschoben.

[dieterdreist (Martin Koppenhöfer)]

@Steppske

I took a photo of the official map. Who is willing to maintain that in OSM

it may not be possible to use this official map as base for mapping because of copyright

[uo4tie]

Panoramafreiheit – Wikipedia /
Freedom of panorama - Wikipedia ?

[Vinzenz_Mai]

@uo4tie

Panoramafreiheit – Wikipedia /
Freedom of panorama - Wikipedia

… deckt, wie bereits zweimal angesprochen,

@Negreheb

• That picture can and should not be used as its copyrighted

@dieterdreist

it may not be possible to use this official map as base for mapping because of copyright

mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit das Abfotografieren von Karten zum Zweck des Kartierens, nicht ab.

[uo4tie]

Nur bildliche Wiedergabe ist abgedeckt. Hast Recht, hätte den von mir verlinkten Artikel auch lesen sollen. Sorry!

[Steppske]

Die Karte ist die offizielle Anweisung an die Radler, wo sie fahren sollen. Aber ich verstehe, wenn ihr mit formalen Dingen extrem vorsichtig seid.

Ich schau mal, wann ich dazu komme, mich selbst darum zu kümmern. Stimmen tut die Karte jedenfalls, sie deckt sich mit den Schildern an jeder Kreuzung.

Danke

[gormo]

[ot]Grauslich, wie da auf dem rechten Rand der Karte die Beschriftungen so über den Beschriftungen der Basistopografie liegen, dass man die drübergelegten Beschriftungen nicht mehr gut lesen kann.[/ot]

[Steppske]

Yupp. 1 Stunde Grafikdesigner scheint zu teuer zu sein, dann lieber selbst machen mit Powerpoint…

Ein wichtiger Teil der Route (den ich gestern selbst gefahren bin) hatte bicycle no, dass habe ich korrigiert. Mal sehen, ob das schon alles war.