ich hoffe, es geht Euch gut. Ich freue mich, eine neue MapRoulette-Challenge anzukündigen, die darauf abzielt, die Point-of-Interest-(POI)-Daten zu verbessern. Ich würde mich über Euer Feedback freuen, ob diese Initiative einen Mehrwert für die Karte bietet – insbesondere für Routing-, Such- und Forschungszwecke.
Die Challenge heißt: Germany - Points of Interest Without the Name. Sie konzentriert sich darauf, POIs zu identifizieren und zu vervollständigen, denen die Namensinformation fehlt, um die Karte vollständiger und besser durchsuchbar zu machen.
Die Aufgaben wurden generiert, indem alle POI-Punkte und -Polygone in OSM gefiltert wurden, bei denen das Feld name=* Field. Wenn ihr eine Aufgabe findet, die bereits behoben ist oder keine Bearbeitung erfordert, markiert sie bitte als „Already Fixed” oder „Not an Issue”, je nachdem was zutrifft.
Vielen Dank – euer Input und Feedback ist stets sehr willkommen.
The edit link leads me to a node, not a way, that’s confusing.
It’s a schools boundary, could/should be a landuse=education instead.
I don’t know that one, and the term “filiale” in the school buildings name is weird to me.
That’s a great question @cyton . Most of the findings were in these two regions. If the community believes this challenge is valuable, we can always add more tasks later if they aren’t all resolved beforehand.
Please remove advertising from the challenge. The “goal” description for this challenge starts with: “At TomTom, we proudly support OpenStreetMap (OSM) communities around the world in the mission to create a more accurate and usable map for all." Please describe the goal of the challenge in neutral terms. It doesn’t matter who puts that goal there, it should speak for itself.
no, it could have additionally a landuse=education tag, but the more relevant edit would be adding the school related information to the polygon, not removing the amenity=school tag from the site.
This challenges puzzles me. First, I was concerned that it will lead to inexperienced contributors flooding the database with descriptive name-tags (that we all try to avoid), but that’s not even the main point.
First of all, I can only find tasks around Berlin and North-Rhine Westphalia, nowhere else. Why ? Second, associated osm-nodes are incorrect. I checked one in Bonn which lead me to Node: 45392933 | OpenStreetMap somewhere in the US.
Finally, there seems to be a high emphasis on educational related POIs since I mostly find tasks about university and schools. In osm, schools are often mapped incorrectly for people overuse amenity=school and don’t distinguish cleanly between different schools sharing a common school ground. So, the task is actually useful for QS-purposes but not for immediate correction using SC on the mobile phone.
Yeah, the issue seems to he that the edit button always references the id of something as if it were a node, but most seem to be ways.
Same as I said above.
The tasks are clustered around Berlin and the Rhine-Ruhr metropolitan region. - As mentioned above, Most of the findings were in these two regions. If the community believes this challenge is valuable, we can always add more tasks later if they aren’t all resolved beforehand.
Some task links lead confusingly to nodes instead of ways. For example, school boundary areas are involved and there is debate about proper tagging (e.g., designation of landuse=education versus amenity=school). - POIs can be nodes and areas too
There are inconsistencies and errors in the tasks, such as edit links pointing to unrelated locations (like a US node when expecting a location in Germany). - Is an issue indeed, I am investigating it with the team
Some users felt the challenge might lead inexperienced users to add non-descriptive or improper name tags. - I changed the settings to experienced users, I might consider adding/tweaking the challenge description to be clear if you agree
The heavy presence of educational POIs highlights mapping complexities around schools, which are often inaccurately mapped, suggesting that corrections require careful consideration. - I am considering to tweak/modify the challenge instruction to show/mention the types of POIs
This new challenge replaces the previous “Germany - POIs Without Name” came with several improvements for editors:
Refined Naming: The new name is more descriptive and specific.
Updated Instructions: We’ve revised the instructions for clearer guidance.
Visible Feature Type: Now, each task clearly indicates whether you need to work on a node or a polygon to ensure you are editing the correct OpenStreetMap feature.
It looks like in the new version the osm-element id (and type) is not “forwarded” to the editor, e.g. iD, for editing, the link only includes the center, and pre-fill for changeset comment or source.
Opening iD from maproulette doesn’t select the specific element.
I’ve only tested this for a few tasks, which were all areas, so I can’t speak on if this happens for nodes.
Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn sich die Community das Thema ansehen und entsprechend Rückmeldung geben könnte.
Eine wichtige Beobachtung als Beispiel: amenity=school Ein großer Teil der Fälle in dieser Challenge – insbesondere bei Schulen – betrifft redundante amenity=school -Tags, die an einzelnen Gebäuden gesetzt wurden, obwohl diese bereits innerhalb einer größeren Fläche mit amenity=school liegen. Ihr findet in der Challenge auch weitere Kategorien neben Schulen, etwa im Bereich Tourismus, Freizeit und Einkaufen, sowie historische Orte.
Ich habe die MapRoulette-Challenge außerdem umbenannt (sie war zuvor Challenge-ID 53633) in „Missing Name Tag on POIs“ , um besser zu verdeutlichen, dass das entfernen eines falschen oder redundanten Attributs eine ebenso gültige und wünschenswerte Lösung ist – nicht nur das hinzufügen eines fehlenden Namens.