Find a good icon to render man_made=ceremonial_gate

I have made a PR to render man_made=ceremonial_gate , and the maintainer agree to render this tag. Now we need to decide on an icon to represent ceremonial_gate. I believe this icon needs to be both distinctive, representative, and culturally neutral. Here are a design that I think is suitable.


What do you think about this design?
Suggestions for improvements or alternative designs are very welcome.

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저는 해당 디자인이 괜찮다고 생각합니다만 문화의 공통 특징이 없다고 생각합니다 문들의 특징인 ‘기와’ 를 활용해 기본적인 토리이 모양 양 옆에 사선으로 간단하게 기와 모양을 표현하는 것도 나쁘지않다고 생각합니다

(“I think the design is fine, but I feel it lacks the common characteristics of the culture. I think it wouldn’t be bad to incorporate ‘giwa’ (traditional roof tiles), which is a characteristic feature of gates, and simply express the tile shape diagonally on both sides of the basic torii shape.”)

Do you mean like this? I’m sorry but I really don’t good at draw svg.

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I have considered this from several perspectives in my own way, and I have come to the conclusion that your final image is the most appropriate. Therefore, I agree with your design.

First of all, I think it concisely captures the core features of “Torana”, especially given the argument made by some that most of such symbols in East Asia originated from it.

Also, when I first encountered “Torana”, I felt that it would be highly suitable for representing a ceremonial gate, not only because of its Asian roots but also because similar structures can be found across various cultures around the world.

Of course, it would be difficult for any ‘symbol’ to be completely deculturalized from all cultural sentiments. Thus, to people from certain cultures, it might feel a bit unfamiliar as a representation of a ceremonial gate.

However, while the symbolic image you created clearly exhibits the characteristics of a ceremonial gate, it does not seem to represent any specific culture in particular.

What caught my attention the most is that while human-centered structures often favor a wider base and a narrower top to emphasize stability, structures representing the divine or sacred world frequently take a form that is narrower at the bottom and wider at the top, or soaring upward. I believe your symbolic image captures this perfectly.

A great example of this is Japan’s Torii[鳥居]. Even in other East Asian architectural traditions, structures built for sacred spaces often pile up the part underneath the roof—referred to as “공포”[gongpo;장부맞춤] in Korean, “斗拱”[dǒugǒng] in Chinese, and “組物”[Kumimono] in Japanese—as high as possible to add a sense of mystique, and I believe your image beautifully and symbolically expresses this very concept.

In particular, the number ‘3’ is a number frequently invoked across various cultures worldwide to convey a sense of vigilance or to signify and embody sacred meanings.

As it carries sufficient symbolic meaning without being biased toward any specific cultural background, I believe the proposed icon is just right to be used as the icon representing this feature.

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뭔가 이런 느낌인데 그림판으로 그려보니 제가 생각 느낌하고는 다르네요

(This is the general idea, but it doesn’t look quite right now that I’ve drawn it in Paint.) :sweat_smile:

Actually many ceremonial_gate don’t have this structure.

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that is how it looks in iD

if new icon would be better, then getting it into one of schema-builder/ICONS.md at main · ideditor/schema-builder · GitHub would enable using it in iD (just create an issue/PR at GitHub - openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema: 🆔🏷 The presets and other tagging data used by the iD editor · GitHub once it is added there)

if iD icon is better maybe it is on license making it usable in Carto

Here are some icon provided by imagico on GitHub.

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Way too much detail in the fine horizontal lines there, what resolution is this even targeting???