Every electoral district in Ireland is mistagged

EightMegs · 2024-11-04T12:28:54.165Z

I’ve noticed that electoral district boundaries show up on OSM as village boundaries, they’re all tagged as boundary=administrative with admin_level=9 when I think it’s fairly clear that they should be tagged as boundary=political without an admin_level tag. I’m planning on bulk editing them if there’s widespread agreement.

alan_gr · 2024-11-04T13:45:09.658Z

They are described by the Government as “the smallest legally defined administrative areas in the State”.

Is your claim that they are not administrative areas? Perhaps you are right, but I think you need to explain why you believe that.

The interpretation of level 9 administrative areas as “village” is not part of the tag definition, it’s just a rough approximation used in some parts of the OSM interface. It’s the nature of administrative boundaries that they need to be interpreted within each country’s context.

EightMegs · 2024-11-04T15:09:26.812Z

While they’re defined by the government as administrative areas, I never see them referred to in an administrative context. Municipal Districts and their county councils all still seem to break up their regions into townlands and civil parishes when making area plans while electoral divisions seem to only be referred to by the electoral commission and the census, which don’t play a direct administrative role. Therefore I think it would be more accurate to tag them as political rather than administrative boundaries, even though the legislation uses the word administrative to describe them.

DeBigC · 2024-11-21T15:20:18.041Z

I’m not sure if that distinction is particularly helpful, as administration is political in the sense that it is politically accountable. On a point of information I would add there are several organisations who use combinations of EDs in their local geography, examples HSE’s Local Health offices and An Garda Siochana. Local Development projects - like Leaders and Partnerships also use EDs. They use these in combination, but almost always confirm to their boundaries at some point.

What I believe drives your question is that you don’t detect any unified system of small geography universally used by the state. You are right.

Now the case for EDs

There isn’t anything generally used that can be seen to be level 9 other than EDs
These boundaries are also historical, so a lot of geneology users need it to locate churches and graveyards.

EightMegs · 2024-11-21T17:44:33.106Z

To be honest, if there are data consumers expecting them to remain at admin_level=9 then they should probably stay that way.