Entrances to Copenhagen Metro

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Using these two quwestion at overpass-turbo I tried to find the subway entrances to Copenhagen metro:

[out:json][timeout:25];
// Hämta Köpenhamns administrativa gräns (relation 2700566)
area(3602700566)->.searchArea;
node"railway"=“subway_entrance”;
out body;

;
out skel qt;

and same but
[“public_transport”=“entrance”]

without results. Are the entrances not tagged or did I oversee something?

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I am sorry, is that an attempt to inform me of something? If so, I do not understand it.

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It is a link to an Overpass query that works for me and finds metro entrances.

I am not sure why yours did not work. Maybe area(3602700566) is not correct. Or maybe there is something else wrong.

(
{{geocodeArea:Denmark}}->.searchArea;
node["railway"="subway_entrance"];
);
(._;>;);
out meta;
>;
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Thank you! I got a “20 MB limit thing” but it worked with {{{bbox}}}. However a lot of stations don’t have mapped entrances. Especially outside the city. Is it possible “subway_entrance” is “entrance via walking tunnel” and not account for stairs and what not? In english “subway” may mean “a tunnel for people to walk under a waterway, rail tracks or road”

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We do not have railway subways outside the city. So there is no railway subway entrances.

If a tunnel passes under waterway or road, it may be a subway in English but it is does not have railway=subway_entrance because there is no railway.

railway=subway_entrance is used for subway/metro stations. Not all stations.

there is a railway=train_station_entrance tag.
It is not used in Denmark, but it could be used more.

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From my experience, it’s used for all sorts of entrance of a subway, be it underground, elevated or at grade, though it also isn’t universal and can be inconsistent even within the same system which most likely happens because the local mappers didn’t consider doing that to be important.

This is one definition (also known as an underpass) but here, it strictly refers to the railway given the name of the key (and the word also isn’t literal in that situation either, see above).

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Yes I agree that if the metro station entrances at Bella center, or Amager Strand, is not considered a “railway=subway_entrance” as the rails at the station is above ground it is a too literal interpretation (and not harmonized with at least Berlin or Stockholm).
I am still sure the entrances at Bella Center and Amager Strand and other above ground station entrances have been mapped.
Does anyone have any idea how they have been “categorized”, what “node” to put in an overpass question?

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As the answer below I also think that saying ““railway”=“subway_entrance” is only valid for entrances where the staition is below ground” in a Metro System is too literal. I am also sure all station entrances in the Copenhag"en Metro have been mapped. Apparently not with “railway=train_station_entrance”, but I am sure it exists somewhere.

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I’m not seeing any entrances mapped in OSM at either of those, what is making you sure they have?

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Anything else would be “unnatural” for a community that have mapped so much and so many entrances (all to stations under ground, but still).
I did this search in overpass, with the map zoomed at Femøren station:
(
node({{bbox}});
);
out body;

;
out skel qt;

node 4950627317 is at one of the entrances, but it seems not be “defined” as anything?

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That node is simply the intersection between a street and a footway. That is implicit by being a member of both ways, it is not tagged on the node itself.

(By the way, it seems like it would be easier for you to open the area of interest in any OSM editor to see everything that is mapped, rather than using Overpass for this purpose).

OSM contributors map a lot of things, but we can never map everything. It sounds like you may be underestimating that. Entrances to underground stations often get mapped because they are important for finding your way to the station. But for a simple overground station like this - the footway leading to the platforms is mapped, which covers many use cases. Picking one node on the footway as the “entrance” might be nice but it’s understandable that it is not a top priority for mappers. In the regions I map in, it’s not something I see mapped often for simple 2-platform railway or metro stations.

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OK.
Yes, it seems I overestimated. To me it is an obvious thing to do, to get consistent data between stations. I have only worked with Berlin and Stockholm Metros, and there I have not discovered any difference regarding stations over ground or stations with only one entrance. Both seems to be mapped on those. But I may absolutely have missed any exceptions.
Thank you all for helping!