Do you know this terms?

Note: I know what this things mean, but I am interested is distinction clear for people overall. At least for people from USA.

Do you know what is the difference between “Weight Limit (GVW)” and “Weight Limit (GVWR)”?

  • No, difference is not clear to me
  • Yes, difference is clear to me
  • I needed to check OSM Wiki / other posts in this thread etc.
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Difference is between that and this.

Would
“Weight Limit (GVW) - current weight”
“Weight Limit (GVWR) - fully loaded weight”
be any more clear?

If anyone is curious, I am checking this due to Add maxweightrating globally and clarify maxweight label (#1887) by ashree2118 · Pull Request #1986 · openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema · GitHub

rated would be much better than fully loaded as it indicates it’s purely based on what the paper indicates. Reading fully loaded I think of: Overloaded Truck | Motors.pk

would it be “Weight Limit (GVWR) - rated weight” then?

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Not sure about the purpose of your poll, but if you want to distinguish between the two, rated weight seems to be the better description to me than fully loaded weight. But maybe I’m also biased by my technical background. fully loaded sounds quite ambiguous to me.

research for Add maxweightrating globally and clarify maxweight label (#1887) by ashree2118 · Pull Request #1986 · openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema · GitHub

I worry that the current solution of

is hopelessly confused

and that when you are supposed to select correct one

it will be even worse.

So I want to either find a better labels or restrict new maxweightrating= to France or both.

Because making easier to add extremely (?) rare case of maxweightrating= at cost of people often mistagging maxweight= seems very dubious to me.

Yeah, I would agree with you, that just the abbreviation will be not clear enough for an ordinary person. actual weight limit (GVW) and rated weight limit (GVWR) might be a good terminology for ordinary mappers.

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I only know because of OSM, I did not previously know the difference. It doesn’t seem like a lot of the folks putting these signs up know the difference either.

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To state the obvious, most of us don’t drive big-rig trucks. You’d only have to know the difference to pass a CDL test. Otherwise, the best argument for using these terms in the UI is simply that that’s what some signs literally say. Fortunately, most weight restrictions in the U.S. are about GVW and we don’t need to concern ourselves with GVWR. If the label needs to be more intuitive than “GVWR”, we could spell it out as “Gross Weight Rating”. The :information_source: button could also elaborate based on the data item description.

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