Candidacy for site moderator status: Mammi71

Tordanik · 2024-02-02T14:14:00.670Z

@Mammi71, one of the category moderators of Deutschland (Germany), has volunteered to serve as site moderator.

I’ve opened this thread to allow the community to discuss and ask questions about the application. Next week, a member of @forums-governance will start a poll according to the moderator selection criteria.

Statement by the candidate:

Looking for site moderators

After some consideration, I don’t want to leave @mcliquid alone and agree to support him and the forums governance team as site moderator.

I think that I can fulfil the requirements:

I am part of mods-germany

I obviously cannot deny that I have actively participated in the community in the last 6 months

there are no active bans or sanctions

“being exemplary, treating others with kindness” may please be judged by others. There were certainly a few things, especially at the beginning in the new German forum, that I see somewhat differently today, looking back. On the other hand, I don’t put on every shoe that is put in front of me.

There are no relevant affiliations or conflicts of interest

As a moderator in the German forum, I have sometimes seen the need to have a few moderators with more rights. Especially when moderator actions were required promptly for which category moderators do not have sufficient rights. However, I hope that such interventions will remain rare exceptions in the future. In the German forum, I would be left out with the extended moderator rights anyway.

Finally, I hope that the above automatic translation is reasonably correct and understandable.

Mammi

Matija_Nalis · 2024-02-03T02:15:42.666Z

@Mammi71 don’t know if that is intentional, but your forum user page at OpenStreetMap Community Forum - OSM Community Forum says This user's public profile is hidden.

Mammi71 · 2024-02-03T08:55:06.265Z

Yes, that is intentional. Is it a negative thing not to have a public profile as a moderator?

What information were you looking for and expecting to find on my user page?

dieterdreist · 2024-02-03T11:40:22.000Z

if the profile is hidden, the button to write a private message is not shown (not sure how this is related, if it is intentional and could be changed, maybe there are other ways to send a private message, but it definitely makes it harder by not showing the button in the profile)

Mammi71 · 2024-02-03T13:29:06.238Z

dieterdreist:

maybe there are other ways to send a private message

Yes, there are other options. I have allowed people to send me messages in my profile. Simply via the Messages menu - New message - Add user or group… That’s not really any harder.

I also assume that no PM is needed, but a group moderators is set up to send a message to. Just like mods-germany or mods-italy, for example.

Map_HeRo · 2024-02-03T23:29:57.133Z

My full support is granted. The start into the new forum was a bit chaotic due to the cirumstances but to my understanding Mammi71 did a good moderator job so far. And I don’t see any reason why a moderator should not keep the user profile private - that should be a personal decision for every participant, regardless of being a simple user or a moderator.

dieterdreist · 2024-02-04T08:45:20.233Z

One feature, Six mappers and still More ways to map it:

Simply via the Messages menu - New message - Add user or group… That’s not really any harder.

the alternative is: click on your name - message user. With a private profile there is no “message user” so the common flow is broken in this case.

jimkats · 2024-02-04T19:11:56.209Z

Not to mention that the private profile in Discourse, doesn’t really hide anything that isn’t already available/searchable. Besides any possible description they write in their profile, a profile just concentrates the user’s posts/topics and groups they are in. Private profile just makes it a bit harder to find out about that user’s interactions (as it also hides their statistics).
I agree with Mammi’s opinion about private profile in this case (forum).

Matija_Nalis · 2024-02-05T03:22:54.904Z

One feature, Six mappers and still More ways to map it:

Yes, that is intentional. Is it a negative thing not to have a public profile as a moderator?

I wouldn’t know about others. I personally like seeing more transparency for positions of power.

What information were you looking for and expecting to find on my user page?

maybe declaration of conflict-of-interest?

Also post statistics, badges, etc. - something that would give me a quick glimpse how you interact with people. One could likely get majority if not all of that data by scraping the Discourse of course, but that sounds like too much trouble just to cast a moderator vote here…

Mammi71 · 2024-02-05T08:55:40.627Z

Matija_Nalis:

I personally like seeing more transparency for positions of power.

Hm, I don’t think there is much more than what you can find in the “User” menu:

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But to satisfy your curiosity I have decided to make my profile public for a few days.
Let me know what interesting insights you were able to gain.

Matija_Nalis:

maybe declaration of conflict-of-interest?

I already wrote it: nothing.
I have no positions or functions in the OSM universe so far (except category moderator, but that’s a prerequisite) and I have nothing to do with OSM in my job.

dieterdreist · 2024-02-05T09:17:42.000Z

I think this is only visibile to yourself if your profile is “hidden”.

On the question of this thread: I am supportive of the candidancy, in the interactions I have had with @Mammi71 in the German area (where he is a mod), he acted in a reflected and balanced way.

Mammi71 · 2024-02-05T11:36:01.430Z

dieterdreist:

I think this is only visibile to yourself if your profile is “hidden”.

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Please try again. I think there was a problem with saving the option before.

dieterdreist:

he acted in a reflected and balanced way.

thx

Mammi71 · 2024-02-05T14:18:45.682Z

Map_HeRo:

to my understanding Mammi71 did a good moderator job so far.

if already to dieterdreist , then of course also a thx to you - I don’t want to accidentally overlook or forget anyone.

Tordanik · 2024-02-07T14:04:09.178Z

I’m now starting the poll about @Mammi71’s candidacy. It will be open for five days and succeed if it gets at least 80% yes votes. Note that votes will be public to help identify any abuses.

Do you approve @Mammi71 as site moderator for the OpenStreetMap Community Forum?

Yes I approve
No, I don’t approve (please comment below)

0 voters

Tordanik · 2024-02-15T08:47:35.779Z

Congratulations @Mammi71! I’ve assigned you the privileges of a site moderator now.

Mammi71 · 2024-02-15T10:34:53.633Z

I would like to thank you for the leap of faith and hope that the “superpowers” are used as rarely as possible.