Bulk edit: osmc:symbol of "transparent" trails

On July 2024, the Israel Wiki page changed. The the color black in the osmc:symbol tag of transparent marked trail relations was replaced by blank:
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The user does not recall this edit, and agrees this is a mistake.

3 months ago, changeset 176490014 modified 24 such relations from osmc:symbol=black:white to osmc:symbol=blank:white.

If there are no justifiable objections, I’m planning to revert both changes: in OSM and the wiki, in a week’s time.

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Clarification requested:

In 2017 February, you added the line [[File:שקוף.PNG|30px]] || black:white

This stayed until July 2024. I think the user assumed you had a typo, because the filename is “שקוף” (transparent) while the English says black:white.

I am not very familiar with hike marking conventions but I do find it confusing that the English wording is “black:white” while the icon is שקוף.PNG looking like so:
שקוף

Should the icon be changed as well?

Some even older history which seems to touch this subject:

A transparent shield would be osmc:symbol=black:white.`

| [[Key:osmc:symbol|osmc:symbol]] || ‘‘The symbol of the trail used for rendering’’. || For the single-colored routes the value should be as follows: ‘‘red:white:red_bar’’. In particular, the background color should be equal to the trail color (“red” in the above example). The foreground color should always be “white”

‘‘Note’’: currently (November 2010) no renderer can correctly render the [סימון שבילים – ויקיפדיה “right” symbols], therefore this convention is a compromise. We plan to update the convention as soon the situation is changed.

Below is a detailed page with explanation and pictures of a transparent trail marking.
It usually means a marking to see some point of interest, but it also a dead end kind of trail, usualy very short.
It’s called transparent because it has the regular two white stripes at the sides but no color in the middle (left empty on purpose).

Where does black fit into this? Is it simply a compromise because the tag doesn’t support transparency?

That would be my guess, yes.

@SafwatHalaby,

This discussionis about a proposed bulk edit.

If you have a proposal for a different osmc:symbol tagging of transparent trails, please describe your proposal in a separate discussion.

I do not object the bulk edit.

But my inquiry is relevant. If black is indeed a renderer compromise, I suggest you add a comment in the wiki (and possibly on the nodes) so this misunderstanding doesn’t happen again.