Bulk edit announcement - addition of iNature reference

Harel_M · 2024-08-08T21:19:32.949Z

iNature has valuable information for local tourism and I believe it is one of the best sites to get accurate data for Israel - outdoor.
In order to link between OSM and iNature I propose to use the following tag: inature:website.
I’ve contacted iNature owner and have their consent to linking from OSM to their site.
iNature uses pages like wikipedia and the most convinient way to link will be to use the title of the page, for example: inature:website=שמורת דלבים which will link to שמורת דלבים – iNature

Here’s a link to a csv with the relevant matching between OSM and iNature:

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hatul · 2024-08-08T21:48:15.338Z

why not website:inature?

Harel_M · 2024-08-09T04:02:53.818Z

I’ve updated the link permission, you can access it now I hope.
I thought about which is better, and since the link is not a full address of the site I think inature:website is better than website:inature, but I don’t have strong feeling either way…

zstadler · 2024-08-09T05:48:17.279Z

I understand that the value of the tags will be the name used by iNature, such as שמורת דלבים, and not a URL.
I therefore suggest that the key of the tags will be inature:name, rather than inature:website, and similar to mtb:name.
This key also suggests that the goal of this tag is to map OSM elements to iNature names.

zstadler · 2024-08-09T06:26:14.272Z

It looks like OSM relation 15019472 “Relation: ‪שמורת טבע שחלבים במנרה‬ (‪15019472‬) | OpenStreetMap” has two iNature pages:

It may be a mapping error that merged two separate nature reserves. See the discussion at

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StC · 2024-08-09T06:47:32.321Z

what the local community tends to do here in such situations is to rather use “ref” tags, e.g. ref:FR:CAIRN=12345 or ref:refuges.info=67890. As far as I understand there is a well known mechanism for apps to convert that into URLs, without making QA processes more complex than necessary.

pyrog · 2024-08-09T07:59:33.626Z

StC:

there is a well known mechanism for apps to convert that into URLs

It’s called Tag2Link, originally a JOSM plugin.

The rules are presented in the form of semantic triples in Wikidata or OSM knowledge bases.
Several applications use theses rules, at least JOSM, Osmose…

pyrog · 2024-08-09T08:19:34.602Z

Harel_M:

I propose to use the following tag: inature:website.

This is not an URL/Website, but this is similar to wikipedia key.

You could simply propose the tag inature and use the Tag2Link rules.

But ref:IL:inature (with the ISO Alpha-2 code IL for Israel) would be more consistent with other keys using this mechanism.
Or ref:inature.info similarly to ref:refuges.info.

Harel_M:

iNature uses pages like wikipedia

Currently there are:

249 website tags containing the value “nature.info”
17 website1
1 source
34 image
10 image1
…

mueschel · 2024-08-09T08:51:37.677Z

pyrog:

But ref:IL:inature (with the ISO Alpha-2 code IL for Israel) would be more consistent with other keys using this mechanism.

This seems to be the proper tag for this case.

Harel_M · 2024-08-09T11:04:49.926Z

Thanks for all the info, ref:IL:inature seems like a reasonable tag, I’ll use that instead.

Harel_M · 2024-08-09T19:48:18.468Z

zstadler:

It looks like OSM relation 15019472 “Relation: ‪שמורת טבע שחלבים במנרה‬ (‪15019472‬) | OpenStreetMap” has two iNature pages:

It also has two names in OSM, thus the results:

Feel free to fix the mapping and I’ll run the algorithm again.

zstadler · 2024-08-14T08:18:04.813Z

Resolving this was not a trivial task. In short: There are two different nature reserves, close to one another, with very similar names: “שחלבים במנרה” (Sahlavim BeManara) and “סחלבים מנרה” (Sahlavim Manara).
I have separated the two and added a note for the benefit of other mappers.

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Note: The “Sahlavim BeManara Nature Reserve”, located further away from Manara itself, is also known as “Har Nezer Nature Reserve”, based on its accurate geographic location.

Harel_M · 2024-08-21T08:01:12.031Z

Bulk edit is now complete. Thanks for your input!