Bot proposal: cleaning up climbing tags

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Hi all,

while working on climbing in OSM, I noticed a bunch of tags in use that have documented, more widely used equivalents on the Climbing wiki page. None of these changes affect the meaning of the data but since it touches a few hundred existing objects I’d like to get community approval before running through the edits.

Proposed changes

  • climbing:bouldering=yes → climbing:boulder=yes
  • climbing:style=sport → climbing:sport=yes
  • climbing:traditional → climbing:trad
  • climbing:outdoor=yes → outdoor=yes
  • climbing:feature=summit_log → climbing:summit_log=yes
Old tag Count Values in use New tag Count already using it Tag info
climbing:bouldering 79 79× yes climbing:boulder 4861 taginfo
climbing:style 64 64× sport climbing:sport=yes 10863 taginfo
climbing:traditional 94 72× no, 22× yes climbing:trad 6635 taginfo
climbing:outdoor 16 16× yes (only used in Berlin) outdoor 9148 taginfo
climbing:feature=summit_log 11 11× summit_log (only used in one climbing area) climbing:summit_log 1214 taginfo

The automated bot edit will be supported by @mateusz_konieczny who has plenty of experience with these kinds of edits. I will manually review the changes from the bot. After that we could run the bot automatically on a regular basis.

While I already took a look at a large amount of affected objects, let me know if you see any issues with this plan, edge cases I’ve missed, or objects/areas where local knowledge suggests a different approach.

Thanks!

CC: @zby-cz, @jvaclavik, @harahu, @Adam_Franco, @_MisterY, @StC, @brightj, @Halbmastwurf, @mateusz_konieczny

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There is a lot of inconsistencies in climbing tags, which makes sense considering the changes over time. I.e. a missing “sport=climbing” tag on some climbing features, old climbing tags on ridges, etc. We are looking to update crags that are missing the sport tag, for example.

In any case, I support the proposal here as a useful step in consolidating these.

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I’d be glad to migrate more community-proposed tags if everyone is on board! I decided not to add the missing sport=climbing tag, to keep the initial proposal simple and safe.

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I agree with all the proposed changes :+1:
Please, mind to mark the tags “deprecated” on wiki pages and wikibase items.

ad missing sport=climbing) Good point, that is another candidate for bot.

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We haven’t been able to do the bot changes yet due to availability issues. In the meantime I found a few other tags which need clean up in my opinion:

  • sport=bouldering (51x) → sport=climbing & climbing:boulder=yes
  • sport=boulder (6x) → sport=climbing & climbing:boulder=yes
  • sport=climbing;bouldering (44x) → sport=climbing & climbing:boulder=yes
  • sport=bouldering;climbing (5x) → sport=climbing & climbing:boulder=yes
  • sport=ice_climbing (143x) → sport=climbing & climbing:ice=yes
  • climbing=bouldering (70x) → climbing=boulder
  • site=climbing_area (37x) → site=climbing
  • Remove climbing:length=0 (249x) got approval from the original author of the tag to remove it.

Please response with a quick :+1: or :-1: if your’e okay with adding these to the initial proposal. That’s just to prevent creating yet another topic, but I’m also fine with opening one ;).

Thank you!

CC: @zby-cz, @jvaclavik, @harahu, @Adam_Franco, @_MisterY, @brightj, @chris66, @M_dgard, @maptheworld2050, @Xvtn

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also, waiting two weeks before running bot is normal anyway

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edit wiki page is at Mechanical Edits/Mateusz Konieczny - bot account/migrate multiple climbing tags - OpenStreetMap Wiki

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can you link to that changeset comment? All 249 were added by the same person, so if they want it to be gone I can zap it away

I would open a new one - in theory someone may be against deprecation/bot edit and fine with initial pool and they simply have not looked again into a thread