Bing Streetside discontinued?

The Streetside imagery from Bing seems now unreachable from bing.com/maps

They are still visible in the iD viewer though.

but the link (Consulter sur Bing Maps /View on Bing Maps) in the left corner of the image doesn’t point anymore to the corresponding streetview imagery

Should we expect the end of this service?

(maybe linked with the end of Bing Maps for Entreprise by June 30th, 2028 https://www.bingmapsportal.com/, replaced by Azure Maps)

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Didn’t even know there were photo options inside ID Editor edit view, works for me and while at it disabled the boundaries feature, something I rarely touch other than accidentiallly connecting a line while drawing and then adding a new version in JOSM. The website works fine for me too. Just used it this morning to verify their map and imagery do not tally. Surveyed yesterday, they got the names wrong on multiple streets.

https://www.seroundtable.com/bing-maps-beta-40057.html

Looks like they put out a new beta as they shift away from shift from Bing maps to Azure Maps. They removed streetsideview and birds eye view. Really disappointing, birds eye view was an amazing feature that set it apart from other maps.

Looks like they have no plans to support birds eye view anymore. Big Loss.

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Agreed. Bird’s Eye View was so useful for drawing tall buildings that aren’t quite captured by the single angle of aerials. *sigh*

No guarantee that this will bear any fruit, but if anyone’s interested in following up, there is this breadcrumb in the Microsoft Learn link:

If this is something you require, please reach out to Vexcel Imaging as they are the suppliers of that imagery.

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I’ve similarly noticed in recent weeks that sometimes the streetside link isn’t there when going directly to Bing Maps, but sometimes it was (and sometimes the link in iD to open up a new tab for the Bing Streetside imagery worked, and sometimes it didn’t). I had guessed that it was related to whether I was logged into Bing with a Microsoft account and maybe they were limiting access for those not logged in, but upon some experimentation that doesn’t seem to be exactly what’s deciding whether it’s there or not either. Maybe they were just slowly pushing out the change.

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Yes, logging in/out would assign you to different experiment buckets if they were slowly rolling out the change.

Yes, for now, I’m still able to use Streetside in Google Chrome, but no longer in Firefox or Safari. As long as iD still uses the existing Bing Maps API, I guess it’ll still have access to Streetside, just like it still sometimes shows bubbles for earlier imagery where TomTom lacks coverage, but we’re on borrowed time…

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As of this morning have an enhanced Bing Maps, a sat-view and 3D view option, but nowhere more Streetview. It was suggested in search that now they have a pin to drop ISO right-clicking on the map and taking the Streetview option, if ground imagery is available. No pin to drop that I see in Firefox. Cleared all cookies per word at Reddit, signed in again but nada. At the dev site it appears still to work Bing Maps V8 Interactive SDK with that mentioned Birdview I’d never seen before.

Just for the record: Bings birds eye view has never been a permissible source for OSM.

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Yah I understood that, I just liked the feature.

And today a button appeared at right with ‘Bing Map Classic’ with that vaunted Birdeye view… full circling of buildings to allow better outlining. It’s now called 3D Flyover.

\o/

Is it licensed for use for tracing in OSM?

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I have had the same issue, also with os maps. Possibly a cookie problem.

It works for me if I use private browsing.

Already you earned someone’s thumbs up, just for asking.

As I wrote in my previous previous comment did not even know about this Birdseye view, but as was written and I quote

Whether it (BEV) was and whether the new (3D Flyover) is OK for use in OSM?… just used Bing Maps and Bing Streetside which was licensed for use by OSM mappers, extend that to MapWithAI/Rapid building outlining, lots is inferred. For the defenitive answer, ask the lawyer(s)s employed by the OSMF.

Since use permissibility has come up, I’d like to clarify here (and maybe offer an opportunity for correction if I’ve misunderstood something): Basically the way I’ve used Bird’s Eye historically is as auxiliary reference material. My actual tracing would be on the licensed Bing imagery; I would just spin the Bird’s Eye around a bit to make sure I had a good mental model of the contours of the building in 3D. Say I’m starting at the roof and dragging the outline down to the ground; this part here looks like it’s on the same level as the roof, but is it actually? That sort of thing. That should be fine, right?

Whatever the Bing limbo dance is, the regular site has returned the regular service… if there’s ground imagery*, right click the target on the map and select streetside from the menu. There’s some new buttons to pick your preferred view from including the Bird’s Eye, if there’s such imagery, same as Google Maps, it’s by far not everywhere, but often at historic types of locations, my town inclusive the Allied bombed flat in WWII.

Does anyone know whether the clearance mentioned in the other thread, that the iD editor’s Bing account can use Bing Maps REST Services until 2028, also applies to Bing Streetside imagery in iD?

The short answer is yes: The current API key under which OSM editors like iD are accessing the Bing Maps services until 2028 is the same one regardless of whether aerial imagery is accessed or Streetside photos are retrieved. So, as long as Microsoft does not prematurely shut down the Streetside service before the 2028 deadline, it should continue to work.

The “long term” open question is whether Microsoft is planning to eventually migrate Bing Map’s Streetside service over to the new “Azure Maps” API, or whether they are intending to discontinue the service. As far as I know, no public information is available about this. For fun, I tried to ask the chatbot of Azure Maps whether there is or will be a replacement for Streetside in Azure Maps, and the answer it spat out read like there won’t be any street level imagery service in Azure Maps. But that intel could be 100% hallucinated from all I know. :person_shrugging: So, let’s wait and see.

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For Denmark, a service similar to birds-eye-view is provided by the government. It’s called Skråfoto, which means diagonal photos and it’s available on skraafoto.dataforsyningen.dk. You can even measure heights and lenghts in it.

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Do you know if Skråfoto has a public API? Maybe we could use existing street-level imagery integration in the editors to expose oblique imagery endpoints.

I’m aware of a similar service in Kentucky that’s available on Amazon s3 or accessible via an (as far as I know) proprietary Web application. It’s been especially useful for mapping details under trees. If Bing Streetside imagery goes away, Kentucky would be left with very little street-level imagery from the crowdsourced services, but the state’s oblique imagery can pick up a lot of the slack. Unfortunately, I haven’t yet worked out how we’d come up with an alternative viewer that would be compatible with an editor like iD or JOSM.