I guess that during the course of “a day” - whenever that starts with our multitude of time zones - the API keys we have available are consumed. This resets at the start of a “day”. For me the imagery works in the mornings but not in the evenings.
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I have tested it, and the reset has just taken place. So it seems to occur at 00:00 UTC.
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The weekend observation is very true and mentioned before so wonder what’s different. Are there working day ‘work’ like efforts sucking up tile quato. Can someone maybe analyze the amount of traffic for JOSM only. We know that with this editor the bulk of the OSM work is done so using the ID Editor license might get us from the rain into the drip.
At any rate, Bing is a must for me. Esri Clarity severely outdated and course. Esri, does not have the resolution, use it to double check if buildings and new road works are shown there, often sooner than Bing, mapbox not an option, got it but does not compare to Bing where I map mostly (central Italy).
PS, now and then I copy the bing.attribution.xml file that’s pulled in the morning, around 08:00 UTC and then leave JOSM up for the day. When having to restart in the later afternoon and get a black out, load the imagery, remove bing, flip the copy of the file onto the original, reattach bing and am back in action, without fail.
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I started when Yahoo! and Landsat was only available and no, unreachable regions (larger lakes for example) were impossible to map. Nowadays still close to impossible to map residential borders (due to inaccessibility), as a random example.
While I agree that unhealthy amount of armchair mapping is probably… well, unhealthy, yet for a good coverage we still need aerial imagery, not to mention mapping far away places.
I would really like to see OSMF having a dedicated person/group for communicating with these giant data providers including having some better contact than Ms. Johanna Doe in a random call center in New Delhi. 
It is not very useful to let them running by chance and trust random individuals to keep up the communication with other random insider individuals. I know it does need these individuals, but contact data and terms should be shared and documented, at least withing the group, much better, IMHO.
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You are missing my point: if the available sources don’t support what you want to do, then a rational course of action is to either map something else (for example local POIs) or go and organise such a source. It isn’t a god given right that at all times all kinds and all subjects of mapping have to be equally supported over the whole globe.
If you want that in the end you are just going to have to pay up, something that is currently far outside of the financial scope of the OSMF. At a global level there are only really two primary sources Maxar (which is what mapbox, bing and ESRI use) and Airbus that are interesting for our purposes. mapbox, bing and ESRI are the ones that have contracts with them, select the imagery, and are nice enough to let us have access to imagery they are paying for their commercial services. It is not something we have any leverage to barter about.
At a local level it tends to be different as there we a nearly always talking about government data that just needs to be available on compatible terms, and the local chapters have a long history of success there…
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You are missing my point (despite that I have quoted what I was responding to). You said “it is completely possible” and I responded to exactly that, and to prevent what you just wrote I preventively included that yes, I am aware that it would be ideal if it was not needed.
You know just as well as I do that it rarely works explaining volunteers that they want to do what you think they want instead of what they know they do. I also have vast amounts of advices nobody needs, so I try not to hand them out to the members of the local crowd. 
(Especially not for people doing this stuff for almost 20 years now.) But yes, that is my choice.
Thank you for your second good advice. If you are very interested you can check Hungarian aerials in the wiki, and you may (or may not) realise that I am hosting some of them. So, indeed, it is so good of an advice that I already have applied it.
But, to be cruelly honest, just handing out that as an advice is rather impolite, knowing what it means to “organise” a source.
My original point is, (and of course you are very well aware) that a well known, respected organisation like OSMF has much better “bargaining” position than a random netizen, and that is one reason that random netizens would entrust the OSMF to organise such a thing, apart from the fact that they are way closer to the fire than many of us are.
We are doing what we can, and we’ve been doing that for a long time now. You may have guessed that what we don’t do it’s possibly because we cannot do it. For example I have no contact at Microsoft at the moment, nor at GeoEye, Dataglobe, Maxar, or other providers, so I am in no position to “organise” them, at least not with more effect than any random netizen (which is about exacly zero).
Another kind of comment really uncalled for. Repeatedly stating the obvious does not help the mood of this local pub.
And that is why nobody have said or even implied that, so the rest is some answer to someone else who said that what you’re replying to.
What I said, however, that it is within OSMF’s scope to communicate with mapping actors, including mappers (like yours truly) and big companies (like Microsoft), or at least with people knowing someone at Microsoft, simply because OSMF is the organisation running OSM, and that has a weight. If you deliberately want to ignore that then please, let others handle the communication, because it doesn’t lead anywhere if you change the topic mid-sentence.
Apart from repeating the obvious let me remind you that - except the data falling out of thin air by local miracles - everything is paid for by someone (money or efforts). The “nice” part is usually when someone (even like me, many time in the past) convinces the content provider that their already paid and done stuff would help the world to be a better place, may even help them to have some free data they can use, and in the same time it would cause them no further financial or technical burden. And in my case it rarely goes by “simply being nice”, we usually have an official agreement that they release the copyright for OSM redrawing, and nothing else, and from then on it is written and nobody have to guess and beg and investigate what happened 10+ years ago between unknown persons. And of course because OSMF want us to do exactly that: to be ODbL conform and legally clean. “Nice”, but also legal.
So now you should already understand that I have not meant “bartering”, more like “convincing”. Or begging, if you please. I am result oriented in this case.
So maybe instead sending me to where the sun doesn’t shine (“organise yourself”) OSMF could talk to a local chapter with contacts to these companies, if they have someone as a starting point for convincing.
But I already visualise your suggestion that “instead of OSMF I shall collect and connect to all OSMF chapters and ask about whether anyone was involved, god knows when and god knows what”. 
If all else fails yes, I might to have do that, instead of OSMF.
But I am maybe unfairly harsh with you since you are not the OSMF, only chosen to speak in their name.
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They do! The OSMF set up an Advisory Board many years ago. It’s for the OSMF Board, big corporate members and OSMF Local Chapters. You can read the Minutes of their meetings.
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This was novel… 09:45 CET (about 08:45 UTC), JOSM went borked, hung on a certificate frame that I could not close opposed to normal. Killed with Process Explorer, restarted, no Bing attribution tiles… 09:45AM where I’d never experienced this before 02:00PM, so did the song and dance trick of copying the little backup file and Bing was back. Just wondering, who ate the JOSM Bing quota so early in the morning/day and asking again, is it a good idea to merge the JOSM certificate to that of ID where no mass editing takes place.
At any rate, where are we with this
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Thanks, that sounds great. Great to know that they have multiple contacts for Microsoft.
I would be very happy to see anything about Bing imagery.
Maybe we should notify the Advisory Board somehow? Maybe they’re oblivious of this problem.
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I’m still getting this error.
This thread went way of topic. Is there a solution buried within it that I can’t spot?
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The solution is in Bing Imagery Glitch in JOSM (Error: Attribution is not loaded yet) and blank tiles - #17 by SekeRob
But to explain a little more: by my understanding, every time you start JOSM and enable Bing imagery, JOSM asks Bing for permission and saves the resulting API key in bing.attribution.xml file in its cache directory ($HOME/.cache/JOSM/ on Linux, dunno about other platforms). If too many mappers have asked for permission recently, Bing denies access, and JOSM saves that error into bing.attribution.xml as well.
A “solution” is to restart JOSM shortly after UTC midnight, preferably on a weekend, as that is when API key limits seem to roll over. When you enable Bing imagery, it might work. If it works, make a copy of bing.attribution.xml, which at that point should contain a working API key, and put it in another directory. If you later end up restarting JOSM and/or lose Bing imagery, the bing.attribution.xml file in the cache folder will be overwritten by JOSM and contain the error message. To “fix” it, delete the Bing layer, delete bing.attribution.xml from the cache folder, then copy in the saved bing.attribution.xml which has a working API key. When you readd the Bing layer, it should read the working API key and load imagery. Repeat whenever necessary.
edit: I don’t entirely recall the correct order. You might instead need to do the steps in the following order: add Bing layer (and get error message), delete bing.attribution.xml from cache folder, copy in the working bing.attribution.xml, then when you pan and zoom, Bing imagery tiles should now load
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For Windows users this bing.attribution.xml is in AppData > Local > JOSM > cache. You might have to search for %AppData%.
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I’m with you. Still getting the same error, and therefore unable to complete productive mapping… When do we anticipate Bing maps returning for a typical user of JOSM?
OK, so the issue is that JOSM is using API which is a single developer key, so a large amount of users is causing “throttling”.
Microsoft provided API key for OSM and it is being used in ID editor, working all the time.
JOSM is not maintained by OSM, so the key given to the OSM is not applicable to be used in other apps.
So, Bing aerial imagery is working but there is a problem with usage of API key in JOSM.
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