area:highway and use in Russia

Communities Россия (Russia)
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This is an important discussion. Please feel free to make suggestions. I have special thanks to ad47 for pointing out this problem.
By the way: I think Russia is leading in mapping of area:higway? Guys, you are great, make more!

Marek

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road_marking=solid_stop_line

Also, there is exist tag “marking=sport” for sport pitches (example rendering in MapSurfer.Net).

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Highway=stop_line looks like the best tag for stop lines anyway. It probably needs some additional tags like stop_line=traffic_signals (I suppose that traffic rules in some countries may require stop at some kinds of stop lines).

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Sounds good in my opinion.
Any another suggestions?

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Но стоп линии только там, где есть светофоры, а в остальных местах что?

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highway=stop_line

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Cтоп линии бывают и там, где нет светофоров. Например у знака STOP, CUSTOM и т.п.
И светофоры бывают без стоп-линий, там где не надо останавливаться на красный свет - у дублирующих светофоров на выезде с перекрестка.

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Excuse me, are you speaking about highway=stop_line on nodes or on lines? If second:

Do you think it will not cause a problem when a user want get all routable highway=* in any area? For example, through the Overpass. In this fall ways with highway=stop_line tag come also in query, and user must filter them.

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Зачем опять в highway пихать? Есть же road_marking, его и использовать, если так уж хочется разметку наносить.

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It is a very important remark, despite many different keys for highway nodes (crossing, traffic_lights, etc.), linear highways should be considered as a routing lines. Linear stop lines is unambiguous part of the road marking.

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Exactly.
For case 1. use: highway=stop_line + stop_line=traffic_signals
For case 2. only: highway=stop_line

Stop Line should is a tagging of a node.

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My vote for
road_marking=stop_line
stop_line=*

We already have enough highway=something_that_is_not_a_highway features.

And while you mark points with highway=stop_line it’s a small problem, but if it’s combined with polygonal highways and you mark a line with these tags, it will interfere with highways.

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This work is under CC0

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В свое время порисовал в округе area:*, да, похоже, GaM все поудалял :frowning:

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Sounds good for me. Please feel free to put this suggestion in the proposal page, including your sketch. Is it ok for you?

Best regards,
Marek

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Но ведь это повод для обращения в DWG.

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GaM давал поводы для обращение в DWG уже столько раз… только все почему-то стесняются писать туда.

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Marek yep.

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dkiselev
I found some bugs, please compare the latest english version.
See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:MarekStreetsasfacesWithPointsLegend.jpg
and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:StreetsasfacesconnectionModified.jpg

Also some changes in the description.

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French mappers have also visualization of streets as area:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/de/map/areahighway-karte_21256#19/48.20084/11.58573