AI ferrets take over JOSM

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The way things are going, it won’t be long before either this thread or JOSM manages to produce an illustration of a buff anthropomorphic leech. (I’m sorry I said that.)

A friendly reminder that the control for muting this thread is :point_down: thataway.

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These are all half-human anthropomorphic creations.

If you saw one in nature you’d either think you were trapped in an episode of Grimm and commit yourself to a mental institution or else try to find out what substance has been slipped into your drink.

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If I saw one in nature, I’d automatically think “Well, this timeline’s a step up, does this timeline also have Stouffer’s Stove-Top Stuffing? Is C3PO’s right shin silver or gold? Someone tell me who the last five US presidents are?”

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Is Donald Duck half-human anthropomorphic creation? And half naked?

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Brace yourself - Donald Duck is not real at all, it’s a cartoon :smile:

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I’ve had such a surge of hope and relief for a moment (so it was all just a bad dream!), until I realized my (pre-primed by all the unavoidable media) brain had misread that as Donald Trump.

I prefer to think of it as half clothed! (They say Happiness is all about taking the optimistic view)

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I reckon your definition of “half” is rather optimistic. :stuck_out_tongue:

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He isn’t half-naked. He is naked. There are a couple of comics/episodes when he is shown without the jacket and he’s covering… well, the part of body that is usually not clothed anyway.

But in a more serious note - the word “naked” apllies to everything that can use clothes. It’s not human-only. So I don’t think saying that these mice are half-naked is incorrect.

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”Donald Duck was banned in Finland because he has no pants” is a fictional moral panic from the 70s. I think rest of the world has mercifully forgotten about the story, but I’d wager most Finns above certain age have heard the story. Or helped spread it :slight_smile:

These reactions to shirtless mice in 2025… ah well. :popcorn:

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I think we’re focusing on the wrong thing. If we had mice that were cute and fluffy but nude no one would bat an eye at their efforts to try and get you to translate JOSM.

Obviously the issue is muscles are not safe for work…

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Use of AI images is still an issue for many people, I maintain that organising an art contest for these things is a fun and effective solution.

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Was there a stage of simply choosing something like a nice big 32pt text banner asking:

Speak another language?
Please help translate JOSM!
No programming skills required.

All I can see in a quick look at the history are just some messages in small text that faded into the background.

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so i take it you see no issue whatsoever with the bulging muscles and, well, bulges? You’d be perfectly comfortable having these images on your screen in public, and at work? Maybe showing them to your parents?

Because most of us aren’t comfortable with that, we feel that they aren’t acceptable to have blasted onto people’s screens.
And i don’t understand why this is so difficult to accept, surely if a significant amount of active community members find it completely unacceptable that should be a very good reason to stop doing it?

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Well, if prevalence of musophobia is reason enough that we should prohibit tools depicting such animals as rats, what will we do with agoraphobia ? Forbid all those pesky map-what-is-on-the-ground activities / tools and convert everyone to armchair mappers to appease those groups too? :wink:

There is no pleasing everyone, IMHO. I mean, even Jesus Christ, Son of God, didn’t manage to do it, so I hardly think any mere human would be able to (In fact, it is likely outright blasphemy even pretending that it is possible to do better than that).

People probably should just get on with those parts of their life which are more constructive than this thread. If they dislike those JOSM MOTD with images, there is an option to disable it. Or they can fork it and change it to just not display pictures (or display different pictures).
Or they can use RapiD or some other editor instead if they’re really soo pissed off with anything related to anyone having a bad taste (i.e. quite different taste then them) in images (kind of like some people would never touch an Apple device).
But cursing or demanding or arguing or pleading at a guy who left the conversation weeks ago is hardly useful IMHO, no? :person_shrugging:

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We wouldn’t deny our fellow mappers a place to vent about the grinning images taking advantage of their JOSM habit, now would we? Gotta get that out of the system before it affects the quality of a mapper’s tagging choices or building-squaring. :person_getting_massage:

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So who’s going to create a JOSM version of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID/Controversial_Decisions? :popcorn:

I certainly don’t have the energy that the people on that page have, but add me to the list of people who want this crud out of (j)OSM and anything I touch. I’ve come to loathe the look of these things, and all the look has (not coincidentally) come to represent on aesthetic, social, ecological and moral grounds. There are good arguments elsewhere for rejecting the generative AI bubble we’re currently suffering through, and good reasons to detest its masters; my objection to the JOSM thing has nothing to do with “professionalism” or whether the heckin’ buff anthropomorphic whatsits ought to wear pants or shirts, and is very much about who you’re echoing, whose tools you wish to work with, and what those tools do to you and your work. What vibes are your communications giving out? Where is your basic media literacy?

If you want people who care about software internationalization to translate, a massively skilled and detail-oriented job, maybe whip your project infrastructure into shape and sign up to continuous translation somewhere with a community of translators? Make it easy and rewarding to apply skill, make it clear you care too, and don’t come at us with low effort shame furries.

I’ve used Weblate in the past - like ten tears ago - and it seemed decent. Maybe not Transifex now though, since they’re burbling on about “translat[ing] software, sites & [needle skip noises] customer experiences ~with the power of AI~” on their front page :laughing:

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Surprised we made it this far without straight up pointing out that “AI” image generators are effectively just wholesale piracy machines. Why do we find this acceptable when OSM doesn’t find it so on the map itself?

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Oh Bagheera…

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