My brother emigrated more then 25 years back to Florida USA.
To be more specific: Citrus county near Sugarmill Woods. I checked the street names in the vicinity where he lives and came to the conclusion that a lot of streets there have either no name or worse wrong names.
See note link above where in the note i refer to the trusted info source of Citrus County Florida.
I made some streetname changes by hand but
maybe it needs more deeper investigation if changes have been done deliberately by someone ?
Because the amount of streetnames with no or wrong names are so many that doing the changes by hand is too time consuming…
By thread-creation and humble corrections i made by hand I hope I have contributed to update OSM’s USA database.
Kind regards,
Geoffrey ( member of OSM Netherlands forum).
Just poking around the various way histories, it doesn’t look like any vandalism has occurred here. Rather, most of the street names look unaltered from the original TIGER import over a decade ago, with various missing streets added on from aerials as time went on.
TIGER is well known to have not been very accurate when it was imported, causing issues even more severe than this in other areas of the US. In any case, surely this area could use some further cleanup, especially if it were surveyed for the ground truth road names. But remotely, the Citrus County database you found could be useful if the license is compatible with OSM. Interestingly, the TIGER 2023 layer (available on iD) seems to agree as far as I can tell with the county database, so that could probably be used as a source as well. That is, assuming these really are the names of the roads!
Being from the Netherlands, Europe i don’t know anything about Tiger imports. What I can find out is the licensing about the digged up info i found out so far (to my knowledge either CC 2.0 or CC 4.0 license, but because of not knowing exactly i will go after that).
Citrus county Florida is known locally for very reliable data.
I checked in the direct surrounding of my brothers home and that is really correct & is also the reason why I did not notice the flaws earlier.
I am glad to hear the origins of flaws has nothing to do vandalism !
Thanks for checking that !
This website and the information contained herein are the product of the Citrus County Geographic Information Systems Division, and are the sole property of Citrus County, Florida. The information is provided as a public service”
Updates on license info & inventory of available info via screendumps ( 1 typo could change the interpretation of shown license that’s why I show screendumps so misinterpretation is ruled out as much as possible)
Made screendumps of Citrus County Geographic Information Systems (GIS) - About Us
Under Florida state law, public records authored by most government agencies, including county GIS departments, are in the public domain and therefore compatible with OSM. The department may have a disclaimer and ask that we reproduce it, which we can do on the wiki. However, the “All Rights Reserved” notice on their site is clearly unenforceable under the state constitution. We can be reasonably confident that the records were authored by the government because of the disclaimer they’ve given.
The “All Rights Reserved” notice normally means something is copyrighted and not openly licensed. However, because of who authored this public record, we can confidently ignore the notice – technically, the county is violating state law for even claiming copyright. I encounter this same situation often in California, which has a similar law putting public records in the public domain.
In other words, feel free to use the county’s GIS data as a source.
Puuuuuuurfect !
I feel guest in your USA-domain (being also an OSM-member but from the Netherlands forum).
By no means I want to screw up USA OSM database of course because that is not helping the community as a whole.
I will limit my self to manual edits in an other countries territory.
Is there somebody who wants to update the sugarmill Woods area by means of automated imports ?
We had a similar case in RI, and it turned out that the more restrictive licensing applied to the website itself (?) and not the data being provided. This FL case sounds as similarly armchair lawyered.
Meaning can not be used ?
I know Dutch law & need guidance in USA law, like I said i see flaws in the OSM map out of my district, (being from the Netherlands) manual corrections take ages.
Some help would be great because I don’t want to mess up territory belonging to others…
Regardless of licensing, it would be best for someone with local knowledge to conduct a survey in person. There is no way to know whether the local GIS site actually has correct data. It is often the case that government databases don’t match reality.
As you can read in my 1st thread there is a trustworthy person (living there in total more then 25 years of which at least 20 years in the mentioned ‘note’ territory), my brother.
Due to the fact that the OSM map in his territory is way off being in updated statehe does not want to put effort in it now & uses Google maps then instead.
As local he wants to put effort in it as it is updated to ‘2024 state’.
Thanks Watmildon as soon I have JOSM with laptop I use this guideline !
Thing is: I have to use an iPad to do some editing as consequence I can not use JOSM and therefore I am stuck to ID as editor and finger pinpointing at IPad’s screen… beyond ideal, rather more FUBAR-state situation
Allways end your post with positive news:
Laptop is underway though if a specific project comes to an end & will receive then that laptop capable of using JOSM.
Does anybody here has a more updated editor map then the Citrus county 2023 version one I can use ?
@Dillen_GJ Slightly OT, maybe try GoMap!! for iPad-based editing. It’s certainly not as feature-rich as JOSM but it was developed specifically for touchscreens, so I imagine it will be less awkward than iPad iD.
Having decent ortho imagery that is only a year old it really good actually! I would be surprised if there’s something available and more recent for most places.
Sometimes I will make rough outlines of things I know will eventually be on imagery with an extra note= or fixme= tag describing that I put it in from local knowledge and it will likely need to be adjusted when new aerials are available.
This is what I do all the time & check commercial landlot and/or building sale via loopnet.com which gives also great info resulting in quality notes.
And off course my brother for local info in the direct vicinity of Sugarmill Woods, Florida.
Maybe I am spoiled with satellite imagery in Netherlands (infosource: Satellietdataportaal Viewer in this example: International airport of the Netherlands called: Schiphol).
The 2023 Citrus County orthoimagery available in iD is similar enough. I don’t think you can expect imagery captured this year to be available until next year at the earliest. Even if the county purchases high-resolution orthoimagery annually – which is not a given – the contractor will need to postprocess the imagery after the flyover, which takes time.
as consequence I can not use JOSM 
